JUSTIN IS HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THE FORUMS SO I AM POSTING THIS FOR HIM- AP'S HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO JUSTIN
I know there has been some debate in the past regarding building your team with rookies or veterans, so I thought it would be fun to look at the careers of QBs that have been drafted and see what kind of success rate they have had in the league thus far. The years I will be looking at primarily are 2003 to 2007.
Key Findings:
- Total # of QBs drafted: 72
- Total # of QBs drafted in the first round: 17 (24%)
- Average # of QBs drafted per draft: 12 QB?s per draft
- # Of first round picks that made the playoffs: 6 QB?s (35%) - Carson Palmer, Rex Grossman, Phillip Rivers, Eli Manning, Matt Schaub, and Brady Quinn.
- # of first round picks that made the conference championship: 4 QB?s (24%) ? Carson Palmer, Rex Grossman, Phillip Rivers, and Brady Quinn.
- # of first round picks that made the Super Bowl: 3 QB?s (18%) ? Carson Palmer, Rex Grossman, and Brady Quinn.
- # of first round picks that have won a Super Bowl: 2 QB?s (12%) ? Carson Palmer and Rex Grossman.
- Honorable Mention: David Greene was drafted in the second round and has won a Super Bowl.
- # of first round picks that have made the pro bowl: 2 QB?s (12%) ? Carson Palmer and Eli Manning.
- # of first round picks that have been traded to another team: 9 (53%) ? Carson Palmer, Byron Leftwich, Rex Grossman, Tony Romo, Phillip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, Eli Manning, B.J. Symons, and Alex Smith.
- # of first round picks that have been traded more than once: 2 QB?s (12%) ? Rex Grossman and Eli Manning.
- # of first round picks to make it to the Super Bowl in their rookie year: 1 QB (6%) ? Brady Quinn.
My Personal Thoughts:
- I always felt taking on a rookie QB is a commitment. My research seems to confirm this hunch. The top performing drafted QB?s took about 3 to 4 seasons before they were in top shape. This would suggest to me that you should have at least 4 to 5 seasons on your contract if you plan on building a QB from scratch. Obviously, other factors should be considered (roster, game plan, etc.), but for those just starting off or those that are bad with roster building, you should hold off on a young QB.
- The amount of first round picks that were traded was surprising. I would think this goes back to my previous point, teams didn?t have the years available to develop them or didn?t have a great supporting cast. My suggestion based on these findings is for GM?s to think long term. When deciding on a rookie QB versus a veteran QB, think about your roster and how much time you realistically have to develop them. Don?t waste a high a pick on a QB you can?t groom.
Number of QBs Drafted (2003-2008):
2003 Draft:
QB?s Drafted: 11
# Drafted in the 1st round: 4
2004 Draft:
QB?s Drafted: 12
# Drafted in the 1st round: 5
2005 Draft:
QB?s Drafted: 12
# Drafted in the 1st round: 2
2006 Draft:
QB?s Drafted: 11
# Drafted in the 1st round: 1
2007 Draft:
QB?s Drafted: 13
# Drafted in the 1st round:1
2008 Draft:
QB?s Drafted: 13
# Drafted in the 1st round: 1
Breakdown of First Round Picks (03-07):
Carson Palmer
Drafted: 2003 (Pick 1.1)
Teams:
Cardinals: 2003-2007
Washington: 2008
Playoff Appearances:
Wildcard: 2005
Divisional: 2005, 2007
Championship: 2005
Super Bowl: 2005 (Victor)
Pro Bowls: 1
Byron Leftwich
Drafted: 2003 (Pick 1.2)
Teams:
Lions: 2003-2004
Chiefs: 2005-2008
Playoff Appearances:
Wildcard: None
Divisional: None
Championship: None
Super Bowl: None
Pro Bowls: 0
Rex Grossman
Drafted: 2003 (Pick 1.4)
Teams:
Bills: 2003-2004
Washington: 2005-2007
Cardinals: 2008
Playoff Appearances:
Wildcard: 2006, 2007
Divisional: 2006, 2007
Championship: 2006, 2007
Super Bowl: 2006 (Victor)
Pro Bowls: 0
Tony Romo
Drafted: 2003 (Pick 1.20)
Teams:
Bucs: 2003-2004
Steelers: 2005-2006
Free Agency: 2007-2008
Playoff Appearances:
Wildcard: None
Divisional: None
Championship: None
Super Bowl: None
Pro Bowls: 0
Phillip Rivers
Drafted: 2004 (Pick 1.1)
Teams:
Titans: 2004-2006
Browns: 2007-2008
Playoff Appearances:
Wildcard: 2005, 2007
Divisional: 2005, 2007
Championship: 2007
Super Bowl: None
Pro Bowls: 0
Ben Roethlisberger
Drafted: 2004 (Pick 1.2)
Teams:
Cowboys: 2004-2006
Broncos: 2007-2008
Playoff Appearances:
Wildcard: None
Divisional: None
Championship: None
Super Bowl: None
Pro Bowls: 0
Eli Manning
Drafted: 2004 (Pick 1.5)
Teams:
Jaguars: 2004-2005
Eagles: 2006-2007
Titans: 2008
Playoff Appearances:
Wildcard: 2005
Divisional: None
Championship: None
Super Bowl: None
Pro Bowls: 1
Matt Schaub
Drafted: 2004 (Pick 1.16)
Teams:
Giants: 2004-2008
Playoff Appearances:
Wildcard: None
Divisional: 2005
Championship: None
Super Bowl: None
Pro Bowls: 0
B.J. Symons
Drafted: 2004 (Pick 1.25)
Teams:
Jets: 2004-2006
Falcons: 2007-2008
Playoff Appearances:
Wildcard: None
Divisional: None
Championship: None
Super Bowl: None
Pro Bowls: 0
Kyle Orton
Drafted: 2005 (Pick 1.14)
Teams:
49ers: 2005-2008
Playoff Appearances:
Wildcard: None
Divisional: None
Championship: None
Super Bowl: None
Pro Bowls: 0
Alex Smith
Drafted: 2005 (Pick 1.30)
Teams:
Bears: 2005-2007
Seahawks: 2008
Playoff Appearances:
Wildcard: None
Divisional: None
Championship: None
Super Bowl: None
Pro Bowls: 0
Matt Leinart
Drafted: 2006 (Pick 1.6)
Teams:
Bucs: 2006-2008
Playoff Appearances:
Wildcard: None
Divisional: None
Championship: None
Super Bowl: None
Pro Bowls: 0
Brady Quinn
Drafted: 2007 (Pick 1.3)
Teams:
Chargers: 2007-2008
Playoff Appearances:
Wildcard: 2007
Divisional: 2007
Championship: 2007
Super Bowl: 2007
Pro Bowls: 0
Honorable Mention
David Greene
Drafted: 2005 (Pick 2.11)
Teams:
Saints: 2005-2008
Playoff Appearances:
Wildcard: 2007
Divisional: 2007
Championship: 2007
Super Bowl: 2007 (victor)
Pro Bowls: 0
All QB?s Drafted (03-0Cool:
2003 Draft
1.1 ? Carson Palmer ? Cardinals
1.2 ? Byron Leftwich ? Lions
1.4 ? Rex Grossman ? Bills
1.20 ? Tony Romo ? Buccaneers
2.26 ? Chris Simms ? Jaguars
2.27 ? Kyle Boller ? Packers
4.23 ? Dave Ragone ? Falcons
5.21 - Brooks Bollinger ? Saints
6.2 ? Gibran Hamdan ? Steelers
7.11 ? Brian St. Pierre ? 49ers
7.29 ? Seneca Wallace ? Eagles
2004 Draft
1.1 ? Phillip Rivers ? Titans
1.2 ? Ben Roethlisberger ? Cowboys
1.5 ? Eli Manning ? Jaguars
1.16 ? Matt Schaub ? Giants
1.25 ? B.J. Symons ? Jets
2.29 ? Jim Sorgi ? Broncos
3.15 ? Bradlee Van Pelt ? Bengals
6.3 ? Luke McCown ? Titans
6.4 ? Craig Kenzel ? Texans
7.3 ? J.P. Losman ? Bengals
7.17 ? John Nararre ? Washington
7.23 ? Casey Bramlet ? Cardinals
2005 Draft
1.14 ? Kyle Orton ? 49ers
1.30 ? Alex Smith ? Bears
2.11 ? David Greene ? Saints
2.18 ? Aaron Rodgers ? Rams
2.30 ? Charlie Frye ? Ravens
3.26 ? Derek Anderson ? Colts
4.4 ? Jason Campbell ? Lions
4.16 ? Dan Orlovsky ? Chiefs
5.7 ? Andrew Walter ? Seahawks
7.5 ? Ryan Fitzpatrick ? Browns
7.13 ? Stefan Lefos ? Eagles
2006 Draft
1.6 ? Matt Leinart ? Buccaneers
2.4 ? Charlie Whitehurst - Chargers
2.13 ? Bruce Gradowski - Panthers
3.1 ? Brodie Croyle - Bengals
4.15 ? Vince Young - Falcons
4.28 ? Jay Cutler - Vikings
4.32 ? Kellen Clemens - Giants
6.32 ? Omar Jacobs - Washington
7.7 ? Reggie McNeal - Vikings
7.8 ? Chad Christensen ? Titans
7.14 ? Brad Smith ? Colts
2007 Draft
1.3 ? Brady Quinn - Chargers
2.1 ? Isaiah Stanback - Jets
2.12 - JaMarcus Russel - Saints
2.17 - Kevin Kolb - Bengals
2.32 - Drew Stanton - Dolphins
3.3 - Jordan Palmer - Vikings
3.24 - Troy Smith - Panthers
4.6 - Trent Edwards - Jaguars
4.10 - John Beck - Vikings
6.6 - Tyler Thigpen - Ravens
6.22 - Jeff Rowe - Bills
7.13 - Richard Bartel - Eagles
7.23 ? Tyler Palko ? Rams
2008 Draft
1.7 - Eric Ainge - Bears
1.14- Brian Brohm - Jaguars
1.21 - Matt Ryan - Packers
1.29 - John David Booty - Bills
2.11 - Chad Henne - Raiders
3.28 - Andre Woodson ? Cowboys
4.3 - Joe Flacco - Dolphins
4.30 - Colt Brennan - Texans
5.9 - Alex Brink ? Chiefs
6.4 - Caleb Hanie ? Broncos
6.22 - Josh Johnson - Seahawks
7.26 - Matt Flynn - Steelers
7.30 - Tyler Donovan - Cardinals
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